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Kim Johnson : NRA/USCCA and CCW DOJ Certified Instructor.
Co-Founder of Ladies, Lead and Laughter.
President of the Hi Desert Rod & Gun Club (HDRGC) in Morongo Valley.
Owner: Taking Flight Firearms Training
- Credentials includes Certified DOJ CCW Instructor for SBCSO working under HDRGC. Certified DOJ CCW Instructor for Riverside County. NRA Pistol Instructor, NRA Chief RSO, NRA Personal Protection in the Home Instructor, NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home Instructor, and Certified USCCA CCW Instructor.
- Kim is a dedicated practitioner, consistently refining her defensive handgun skills. As a competitive shooter and avid enthusiast, she brings her expertise to the classroom by offering both private and group lessons.
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Sue Apostoli
Founder: Fight or Flight
NRA/CCW DOJ Certified Instructor
- Sue is a Trainer with the San Diego chapter of A Girl & A Gun and the RSO boss. She is a defensive pistol shooter And regularly trains with her pistol and Rifle in San Diego. She has trained under nationally renowned instructors including Tatiana Whitlock, Brian and Shelly Hill, Dakota Adelphia , John Murphy, Ed Monk and More.
- Credentials includes Certified DOJ CCW Instructor for SBCSO (working under HDRGC). Certified DOJ CCW Instructor for Riverside County. NRA Pistol Instructor, NRA RSO, NRA Personal Protection in the Home Instructor, NRA Personal Protection outside the Home Instructor, Image Based Decisional Drills Instructor (The Complete Combatant), A Girl & A Gun Trainer/Instructor , Certified Pepper Spray Instructor and POST certified red-dot instructor also Trained in Active Shooter response.